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Good afternoon. Recently, I was threatened to be removed from a “CHRISTIAN” forum for “promoting religion“. I found it very ironic since that is the very thing I am against! I was sharing some of the more powerful scriptures with someone who was down, depressed and wondering if God can be trusted. The person who was threatening me did NOT like the fact that I pointed out that the word “aionios” in Matthew 11:27 could be interpreted as “an age of” or “agelong” instead of “eternal” like some translations do. Also, the word “kolasis” in the same verse could also be translated to “correction” or “corrective discipline”.
Don’t worry about understanding this now as I will explain it in the message itself. Also, believe me, this information is for ALL people and it can be explained in a way for all to understand. Don’t be afraid to post a question or comment in the General discussion forum or send a contact email.
After this, we discuss the things I DO believe and we address his accusation that I am promoting a “religion” and thus I could be banned from the Christian forum. I want to share this because this is the type of thinking that the religious Pharisee’s had in Jesus day. It is law-based and rule-based. It divides people and creates division, denominations, and all kinds of religions. It does not believe the simple truth found in God’s Word even though it thinks it does.
Here is my response to this person as I want you to see the battle the Lord has in his hands. I know it’s long, but I tried to address as many of the main scriptures that the religious mind does not believe.
Thanks for your care and concern for me. I am wondering who among us has 100% pure doctrine and 100% pure truth? That person can cast the first stone at me. I will gladly leave and go elsewhere where people are willing to look at scriptures honestly and truthfully. I was hoping that was here, but it is looking as if large portions of God’s Word are off limits.
If a person is honest and looks into their own heart past the fear of their religious outer man, they have to admit that it is at least a possibility that the word “aionios” could mean “an age of” and “kolasis” could mean corrective discipline out of love. If one’s heart is open enough to do a simple Google search they will quickly see it is often translated as “agelong” You have to admit it is a possibility that when the translators translated the from the Greek into English, they had a choice between these definitions. IMHO anyone who won’t admit this is in denial of the truth.
So, if a person is translating the original manuscripts into another language and has these choices, how does one decide whether you translate the word “aionios” into “everlasting” or “an age of”? Or, who gets to decide if “Kolasis” means “torturous punishment” or it means “loving discipline or correction”?
To me, this is VERY IMPORTANT because it tells us what kind of God we are trying to get to know. Is it one who we need to fear his wrath and eternal torment in fire by making Matt 25:46 say “These will go away to be tortured forever, but the righteous to eternal life”. Or, are we going to be honest and realize there is a possibility that God is TRUE, “other-centered” LOVE and that maybe Matt 25:46 means “These will go away into an age of correction, but the righteous to eternal life”?
I could be wrong, but I believe we have to at least leave this open as a possibility, don’t we? Unless someone can say that the human being(s) who made these translation decisions is perfect and had 100% perfect knowledge of God’s truth?
Also, so we even believe the very words of Jesus when he said “NO ONE knows the father but the Son?” in Matthew 11:27 and Luke 10:22 and many other places? Has it really sunk into our hearts what this really means? He was talking to the most well educated, religiously-trained Pharisee’s of the day. If ANYONE knew the father, it should be them, right? Not according to Jesus.
You don’t know my beliefs, but I would be glad to share with you what I believe. If anyone wants to kick me out for believing them, no problem. I would say it was by Gods plan. Here is what I believe. I will show you some of the verses that I believe on simple faith to be true. I believe God doesn’t play games or intellectual mind tricks like man does. I just simply believe what he says.
Maybe I am “religious”? I would be glad to share with you what I believe.
I believe the following:
All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, And all the families of the nations will worship before You. Psalm 22:27
I believe “All the ends of the EARTH WILL remember and TURN to the LORD and ALL the families of the nations will worship before him!”
Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners will be converted to You Psalm 51:13
I believe “God will teach transgressors HIS ways and SINNERS WILL BE converted to him”.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Isaiah 42:23 KJV
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:11
I believe that God’s Word (Christ) will NOT return without doing it’s intended work and that EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY TONGUE will confess Jesus is Lord.”
Looking at them, Jesus *said, “With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.” Mark 10:27
I believe ALL things are possible with God, whatever he wants to do he can do it.
“Even from eternity I am He, And there is none who can deliver out of My hand; I act and who can reverse it?” Isaiah 43:13
I believe that NO ONE can over-power God and no one can change his decisions.
“But He is unique and who can turn Him? And what His soul desires, that He does. Job 23:13
fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God Hebrews 12:2
I believe Jesus is the author or creator of our faith and that he perfects it or brings it to it’s fullness or completion.
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God Hebrews 10:12
I believe Jesus ONE sacrifice was for ALL SINS FOR ALL TIME and his spiritual work is FINISHED.
Am I being religious for these beliefs so far? Let’s keep going because it keeps getting better and better.
I believe God is going to cause all the things in Hebrews 8:10-12 (above) to happen to the entire HO– USE OF ISRAEL, whoever Israel or the real Jew is. Let’s try to find out who is a “Jew”.
But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. Romans 2:29
Praise God that Paul helps us out here to understand who a real Jew is and thus who the real House of Israel is that Hebrews 8:10-12 is referring to. It is someone who is NOT circumcised outwardly in their flesh, but one who is circumcised INWARDLY in their heart.
and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ Col 2:11
I see, when a person believes and is “in Christ” their heart or spirit man is cut away or “circumcised” from their outer man who is the “flesh”. Thus, I have to concluded and believe that a TRUE JEW and the TRUE House of Israel that God is referring to in Hebrews 8:10-12 is Christ’s body or the Church. All true believers. I would have to concluded that it is no longer those who are physically circumcised. It hast to be referring to a spiritual circumcision.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:22
Maybe I am dumb or naïve, but I actually believe 1 Corinthians 15:22 because of all the OTHER supporting verses. I believe that ALL mankind died spiritually (and physically) in ADAM. I also believe that same “ALL” will be made spiritually and physically alive in Christ. I see no other way as “all” means “all”, doesn’t it?
For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died 2 Corinthians 5:14
I believe that at the cross, ALL the spiritually-dead mankind, really ALL of the spiritually-dead creation was taken into death with Christ.
“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. John 12:24
I believe that in God’s amazing ways, something has to DIE FIRST before LIFE will spring forth. This helped me to understand why I believe 2 Corinthians 5:14 to be true. Somehow in God’s ways, when death itself dies, life springs forth. I don’t know how all these things work. But, I do believe them.
For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. 1 Tim 4:10
I believe 1 Tim 4:10 says plainly and simply that “God is the savior of ALL men”. All means ALL with no human mental gymnastics or mind tricks. Maybe I am simply too naïve and trusting? I was born and raised in a rural area and that is how we were brought up…
Here is more of what I believe…
for our God is a consuming fire Hebrews 12:29
I believe God IS a consuming fire. Because it says “is” I have to believer that is his main essence.
The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love 1 John 4:8
Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
I believe that the very definition of Love and also GOD (because he IS love) is that he is patient, kind, not jealous, does not brag, is not arrogant, does not seek his own, does not take into account a wrong, rejoices in the truth, bears and endures all things and my favorite.
Love (God) never fails!
So, God is both “fire” and “love” at the same time. This seems confusing to my human mind how something can be “love” and “fire” at the same time. This must be a different type of fire than I have ever seen.
For everyone will be salted with fire. Mark 9:49
I believe that Mark 9:49 says that EVERYONE will be “salted” or purified with God’s Holy fire. I have already shared that I believe the Helps Word-studies and the Strong’s concordance definitions of God’s “fire” to mean purifying and refining. I agree with them that it changes everything it touches into itself.
“As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Matthew 3:11
Jesus will or has already baptized me into the same fire.
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire Revelation 20:15
At the end of the judgment time, anyone who’s name is not written in the Lambs book of life, they too will be thrown into the fire. I guess they will be in the same place as I am, in the fire. I have to believe this is not a physical fire, but possibly a spiritual fire? I can assure you that I am not in a fire or on fire right now.
Well, I do believe that God is a fire and he also is love. His fire is different than any fire I know or have seen.
But who will survive the day when he comes? Or who can stand when he appears? Because he’s like a refiner’s fire and a launderer’s soap Malachi 3:2
I believe that somehow when the Lord returns he is going to be like a REFINER’S fire and launderer’s soap. I know that “refining” means to remove impurities and I know that “launderer’s soap” cleans my clothes. Interesting because I do know that we are told many times to wash our robes in the blood of Jesus so they are pure and clean.
Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time Daniel 11:35
I am finding this idea of “refining” and “purifying” and being “made spotless” all over the Old Testament.
Did you get enough of my beliefs? Am I promoting my religion by believing these verses? Do I need to be removed from this board? I hope not because Jesus told us that under the New Covenant there really is one remaining sin which is unbelief of the truth. I don’t want to be caught not believing the above verses which would put me under law. Hebrews had some STERN warnings about a person who has “tasted” the truth and then gone back to the old system of Law. I don’t want this to be me!
Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God Hebrews 3:12
Wait, it get’s even SCARIER in Hebrews 6 so I sure hope I am not caught in UNBELIEF or trying to create my own religion by not believing the truth. I do NOT want to come under God’s wrath.
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. 7 For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8 but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned. Hebrews 6:4-8
I certainly do NOT want to have an EVIL, UNBELIEVING heart that falls away from God and does not believe the simple truth found in his Word. I love the Lord too much to think of such a crazy thing. I humbly hope he will continue to give me full belief in his Word as it simply states and continue to reveal the deeper spiritual truths. Is that “religion”?
Let’s talk about “religion” a bit. I am really glad the people who own and run this board don’t allow religion. I hate it too! However, we have to correctly define it. Religion is anything that man (who doesn’t know God because only Jesus does) does in an attempt to please or “appease” the false God of his imagination. His God will NOT be based on the simple truth found in God’s Word and that person will not believe the simple truths found in the Bible. His God is anything that he worships and places before the one true God found the Bible. It will be a God he created in his own imagination. Crazy enough, I believe that everyone has a “religion” or something they tend to worship at times before the one true God. But, that isn’t what we are talking about here.
We have to remember that it was extremely “religious” men who KILLED JESUS! They were NOT open to the truth but were very closed off in their minds and thinking. They created a set of false beliefs not based on the truth but based on their own self-righteousness. A religious person does NOT believe the truth of God’s Word. They will NOT believe the scriptures that I shared above. Religion is man refusing to believe Jesus (the truth) either in person or in his written Word. They live out of their own interpretation of scripture.
Religion is what DIVIDES us and separates us and doesn’t bring us together and unite like Christ does. Religion says you must believe what WE TELL YOU and doesn’t trust the Spirit of Christ to do the work of conviction like John 16:7-11 says. Religious thinking is what creates thousands of denominations in Christianity and hundreds of other “religions” in the World. “Religion” will not accept the one simple truth as clearly and simply spelled out in God’s Word.
So, am I pushing my own religion?
I just came across these verses that are POWERFUL and SIMPLE yet take GREAT faith to believe them.
Now, ask yourself “Who died with Christ?” Did everyone die with Christ? Even unbelievers?
For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died (2 Corinthians 5:14 NASB)
Ok, you have that answer as to who died with Christ? Jesus is telling you from within I am sure of it. Now, check this verse out.
It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him (2 Timothy 2:11)
Remember, this can NOT be false! Let’s praise God’s amazing love together.
(You can find more on this topic at this post.)
I hope you are having a great day. I had to take a few days off due to a back injury during weightlifting. Don’t we take our bodies for granted until pain and age sets in? I know I do.
I have been spending some time on some Christian forums and it’s been very good. God is really doing some amazing things these days to unveil our minds to the truth. I am finding people ARE open to hear and DIG for the truth. This is a great blessing when we encounter it.
A big topic of discussion that I have been involved in is the proper definition of God’s “fire”. Isn’t this a bone-chilling verse?
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire Rev 20:15 NASB
When reading this, it is hard to even imagine people being thrown alive into a lake of FIRE and them burning up alive. How could God ever do that? Isn’t he the very definition of “love”?
What if we have misunderstood the very meaning of the word “fire”? What if God’s fire is totally DIFFERENT than the physical realm fire that we know of? Could it be that God’s fire is not destructive like the (physical realm) fire we know of?
Let’s dig into it just a bit.
Many are not aware of the TRUE definition of words translated as “fire” and others like “eternal” and “torture”. They are different than we have been taught and I so excited to see God revealing this powerful truth at the end of this current age. It has been a pleasure to share them with others. Check out this post if you are interested. For now, here is the Strong’s concordance and Helps Word-studies definitions of God’s “fire”. It is the Greek word “pur” where we get the English words “purification” and “purity” from.
Original Word: πῦρ, πυρός, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Phonetic Spelling: (poor)
Short Definition: fire, trials
Definition: fire; the heat of the sun, lightning; fig: strife, trials; the eternal fire.
We can see some of the Strong’s definitions including “eternal fire” and “trials”. Below is the Helps Word-studies definition.
4442 pýr – fire. In Scripture, fire is often used figuratively – like with the “fire of God” which transforms all it touches into light and likeness with itself
God’s Spirit, like a holy fire, enlightens and purifies so that believers can share more and more in His likeness. Indeed the fire of God brings the uninterrupted privilege of being transformed which happens by experiencing faith from Him. Our lives can become true offerings to Him as we obey this imparted faith from God by His power.
[This is illustrated by God’s fire burning continuously at the entrance of the Tabernacle where the priests made sweet-savor offerings. Compare Lev 6:12,13 with 1 Pet 2:5,9.]
You can see initially some amazing things there that I highlighted and I would like to share more on this soon as the Lord allows. There also other mistranslated words of which sometimes WHOLE doctrines are based upon, that make God look evil and hideous. This is sad because he is defined as love and if we don’t understand the truth, we will misrepresent him. Shouldn’t “love” always do what is BEST for us? Shouldn’t love always find a way to be WITH us instead of destroying us? Are we to say that we know “love” better than God does? Some things to ponder.
You can find this out yourself by checking out verses like Rev 20:15 at biblehub.com and click on the words translated as “fire” to see the Strong’s number 4442 and the Helps Word-studies information that I provide above. Here is the verse:
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire Rev 11:15 NASB
Here’s a link to the interlinear version: http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/20-15.htm
Here’s a direct link to the meaning of “fire” that I provided. http://biblehub.com/greek/4442.htm
May we be open to the truth that the Spirit reveals to us.
Have an awesome day of rest in the Lord.
How often have you looked at the events of Genesis 1 and 2 accounts of the creation of man and were confused because things didn’t quite add up?
If you have, you are not alone. Some of the events are out of order from the two accounts. You can look yourself or do a Google search on “Genesis 1 and 2 order of creation” and read about it. It is a common way people will discard Genesis or maybe even not believe God’s Word altogether. There is an answer, however.
As I wrote in my last article, I believe the answer is to see that Genesis 1 is the creation of the spiritual side of the realm called “Earth” and Genesis 2 is the “forming” of the physical, natural side which includes man or “Adam” as we know him. Although some of the things created in Genesis 1 could be physical too, I believe God is mainly talking of the spiritual creation including spiritual man in Genesis 1:26-30. This spiritual man is the one who would rule the entire Earthly kingdom including all the Heavenly hosts or God’s angels assigned to Earth. Was this Adam? It is supposed to be, but the process has never fully completed in space and time in the realm of physical Earth. Christ came and completed it and one day we will see the second Adam rule all the Earthly kingdom. In the meantime, there is a temporary, false ruler who is defeated and on his way out. But, lets get back to Genesis 1 man who is male and female spirit beings.
Is there any other evidence to show us that Genesis 1 man is not the “first Adam” or “natural man” that we are familiar with?
Yes there is. Let’s look at very powerful clue.
Let’s go to Genesis 9 just after the flood when Noah (a type of Christ) left his Ark and God made a covenant with him. Noah was a natural man right? Was he not a descendent of the “first Adam”? If so, we would expect him to be given the same food to eat as Adam was, by God. Up to this time, mankind or descendants of first Adam (natural man) was not allowed to eat meat or the flesh of animals. God was now allowing natural man to eat meat (flesh of animals) only he could not eat the blood. See Gen 9:3.
Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant (Gen 9:3)
This is great news because I love steak. 🙂 However, there is something very interesting here. Look at what God says at the end. He adds “as I gave the green plant“. This is odd. Do you know why? Go back to Genesis 1 and look at the food that God gave to mankind and to the “beasts”. Remember, he is talking to Genesis 1 mankind.
Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so (Gen 1:29-30)
So, according to Genesis 1:30 who did God give the “green plant for food“?
Not to mankind! He gave it to the BEASTS of the Earth, birds of the sky and every thing that moves on the Earth which has life. How can this be since God told us in Genesis 9:3 that he gave Adam’s descendent Noah “the green plant for food”?
I believe The reason is because Adam as we know him or “natural man” was NOT Genesis 1 spiritual mankind!
Adam as we know him, who is natural and has a human body was Genesis 2 man who was (physically) “formed” and not created. Adam was a natural living being formed from the dust of the ground and given the natural “breath of life” just like an animal or “beast” who had natural life. However, the much stronger, kingdom-ruling Genesis 1 man is a powerful spiritual being who would rule the ENTIRE Earthly Kingdom. There were not (yet) the same being, but Christ would come and complete this merging or “reconciling” work. This is one of the main reasons why Jesus came was to finish this work started in Genesis 1 and 2.
Christ would finally reconcile or merge the spiritual ruling Kingdom of Earth with the natural subordinate, physical kingdom of natural man.
He came to merge Genesis 1 spiritual man with Genesis 2 physical, natural man! We don’t yet “see” this fully, but I believe it fully and finally happened at the cross where the present rulers of darkness were “stripped of their authority”. Earth and it’s spiritual ruling side are fully merged as one ALONG WITH HEAVEN ITSELF! We are simply waiting for God to unveil our minds to this truth in space and time. If God says it will happen for Jim next Thursday at 3:05pm, it WILL OCCUR. He WILL BEGIN to believe and see the truth of Christ. For now, the rest of creating including all natural mankind is waiting for this to occur while “groaning” under the power of darkness because he can’t see this finished work from his still-darkened body. Check out these very powerful verses:
For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. (Rom 8:19-21)
My friend, this is so beautiful. God promises us he will SET THE ENTIRE CREATION free from the bondage of darkness, sin an death. Here is a beautiful key to watch for in scripture.
For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now (Rom 8:22)
The whole creation was subjected to the curse by God. The whole creation will be REBORN into Christ and you could argue strongly that it already has but we simply can’t see it. The entire creation has already been placed into Christ at the cross. Col 3:11 tells us “Christ is in ALL” and Col 1:27 says “Christ is in you” speaking to “gentiles” who are (spiritually speaking) unbelievers. Could we all just be waiting for Gods appointed time for each person’s spiritual eyes to be opened? I believe that’s what his Word tells us. At one point called the “Day of the Lord” he will reveal HIMSELF to all mankind. He will not “return” like we are taught. HE IS ALREADY HERE! We (true believers) are his BODY! See Ephesians 5:30 Where are we? Are we not “here” on Earth still yet we are told we were also raised WITH HIM and seated WITH HIM in heavenly places? Could the most simple answer be that Heaven is not some place “up there” or “out there”, but right here on Earth!?! Didn’t Jesus tell us himself that “the Kingdom of Heaven will not come like man says because it is within you“!?! I strongly suspect that those “heavenly places” we can’t yet see are HERE NOW but our natural brains and minds are still veiled to them. God promises to remove the veil for ALL Nations on his day! Is. 25:7 In the meantime, we can only see truth by faith that he gives us or when we leave these natural bodies at physical death. However, the work is finished according to Jesus at the cross.
This is indeed very exciting! In the meantime, we are waiting, expecting and hoping. Hebrews 2 reminds us of Gods plan for man.
For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking. 6 But one has testified somewhere, saying,
“What is man, that You remember him?
Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
7 “You have made him for a little while lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
And have appointed him over the works of Your hands;
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” (Heb 2:5-8)
Verse 8 tells us Gods plan for the second and TRUE (spiritual) Adam. However, we do not yet see this. We are still waiting for this finished work to simply “appear”.
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him (Heb 2:9)
Christ finished the work that was started in Genesis 1. He fully merged the power of Genesis 1 spiritual man with Genesis 2 natural man and then the entire realm of Earth with Heaven itself. He removed any separation and barriers. This is why the “veil” was rent or torn. The veil was his body, but it was also the very veil or “expanse” in Genesis 1:6-7 that separated Earth from Heaven! We don’t yet “see” it as we can’t in these veiled bodies, but we will according to Gods plan. The mere fact that we are now seeing things in his Word that we NEVER have before could indicate that we are getting closer. He is unveiling our minds to more and more truth each day.
This is an exciting time to be alive! As more and more people see these powerful truths, the entire World really will be changed as Christ (and HEAVEN itself!) is revealed RIGHT BEFORE OUR very EYES!
Hopefully this article helped to reconcile some of the questions that exist between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 along with revealing some of God’s glorious plan for man. I also wrote more about this in the last article called Jesus or Satan? Connecting Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 man”
I hope you will seek the truth found in his Word on these amazing things.
I pray you are doing better than my body is today. I injured myself lifting weights 5 days ago and now I REALLY know what a sciatic nerve is. How painful! Don’t we take our bodies for granted until they rebel? I know I sure do it seems.
I want to share something very powerful that God finally revealed to me today. Something I have been digging and digging on yet couldn’t find the connection so I let it go and “simmer”. God can make that happen in a flash and I guess he felt today was the time. It’s so cool when he allows that to happen, isn’t it?
Thus, today I had a powerful breakthrough on Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 man. I knew for a while now that Genesis 1 man is/was fully spiritual with full spiritual reigning power of the spiritual realm of “Earth” whereas Genesis 2 man (Adam) was physical and natural including his spirit! It’s important to know that even his spirit was “natural” so that’s why I repeated it. Natural just means “downgraded”, “not full strength”, or submissive and veiled to God or spiritual things. We know natural man is completely veiled to the things of God and can not see or understand them right?
Here is where it went “POP” today when I was reading a “discussion” between two guys on a forum about Genesis 6:1-5 about the “sons of God” marrying the “daughters of men”. This set of verses has always intrigued me. This is really cool. I hope you stay with me on this and think about it carefully while digging into Gen 1, 2 and Romans 6-8 again after reading this. I believe you will see what I am saying.
Remember how Genesis 1 it says that mankind were made “male and female”? For the longest time God had not revealed what that meant because I was totally convinced it was powerful spiritual man who rules Earth’s spiritual kingdom and NOT the natural or physical creation. Please note that both Genesis 1 and 2 man rules over the “beasts” and animals of the earth, birds of the air and fish of the sea. However, Genesis 1 is the spiritual realm and they are not physical animals and physical fish but rather fallenangels or “birds” and fallen man or “beasts”, etc. In Genesis 2, it IS the physical realm or the actual animals and fish and birds that Adam (physical man) would rule over. This is the realm we are familiar with. They are different realms completely though from Genesis 1 (spiritual) and Genesis 2 (natural, physical)!
They are two completely different “mankind” from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2! One is spiritual in Genesis 1 and one is physical or natural in Genesis 2.
Ok, with that background in place, think about marriage and the creation of offspring. The “husband” or male produces the “seed” and joins with the “wife” to produce offspring. This would mean that Genesis 1 male spiritual being is the leader and more powerful one and that the Genesis 1 female spiritual being is the more submissive one that is dominated or ruled over by the male spirit. Are you with me so far?
If so, just who are these “male” or dominate powerful spirit beings and “female” submissive spirit beings.
Well, the “female” spirit of Genesis 1 man is none other than “fallen” or natural mankind’s human spirit! It or “she” is controlled and taken into captivity from birth by who? Well, the husband or male (ruler or “father”) spirit of Genesis 1! Can you guess who this is? Who is the ruler of this present fallen world (still)? Who is the personification or “father of sin”?
Let’s look at some scripture to find out.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. (John 8:44)
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. (1 John 3:8)
These verses are NOT METAPHORS! Jesus was telling the absolute, solemn truth here! The Devil REALLY WAS the “father” or “husband” of the unbelieving person he was talking to. He was married to their spirit and controlled their spirit keeping it under the power of darkness so it was unable to see God and have any faith. Amazing huh? Sounds crazy? Think about it a while. It will come to you if you are open to the truth.
Satan is really Genesis 1 male Spirit! How he got that position is a whole other topic, but all indications show that he started good (maybe as Lucifer in Is 14) and sinned and became “darkness” and “evil”. He gained power and control of all Earth’s spiritual realm and all mankind’s spirits who are the “female” or submissive side of Genesis 1 mankind but also the physical beings (Adam) in Genesis 2. When he inhabits one, he is it’s “master” or “husband”.
Satan IS sin and the “father” or originator of ALL sin just like Jesus IS righteousness and the source of all righteousness!
This is very powerful because now you can go and read Romans 6-8 and anytime you see “sin” put the word “Satan” in there. Anytime you see the word “righteousness” put “Jesus” in there. Believers and unbelievers spirits (and souls) are the “wives” or “bride” and Jesus or Satan is the husband. Satan and his “wives” (unbelieving, natural spirits and souls) are under the power of darkness which is the law! This is sin and death which separates him and unbelievers from God. God tells us in the OT that he “wrapped him (Lucifer/Satan) in darkness”. I believe it is in Ezekiel but you can dig into it. It’s really amazing.
Thus, at new (spiritual) rebirth, a person’s soul and spirit becomes joined or “married” to Christ who IS righteousness. The person is no longer attached to “sin” or Satan in any way (as Christ is now their husband FOREVER!) but their body will die because it is still part of the natural creation yet under the curse. It still has this power of death in it (sin/separation) and must die. But, the person is now fully ONE with LIFE and RIGHTEOUSNESS who IS CHRIST to live FOREVER!
Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. (John 6:47)
Jesus is the TRUE Genesis 1 spiritual MAN (while Satan is the FALSE version of this fallen World) or the “male” part of God’s spirit that finally joins with natural man’s spirit (and soul) to make him WHOLE finally!
This is so amazing and I thank the Lord for finally revealing this connection. Suddenly so many things are coming together especially when God talks about marriage. He is REALLY talking about the union of a person’s soul/spirit with Christ or Satan. They are either a slave (married) to sin as unbeliever or a slave (married) to righteousness as believer with NO mixing EVER! All the old creation is under the curse of darkness/separation and WILL DIE. But, the GREAT news is that the blood has reconciled ALL creation and ALL creation will PASS THROUGH IT to be REBORN!
namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:19)
Isn’t this amazing? This, my friend is the TRUE and most amazing sovereign plan of God!
Now, you can go back through Romans 6-8 and see a whole NEW story. The truth!
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Have a great Sunday.
Today I received a response from one of my long-time customers because I took a risk sharing some things related to God and not computer or business related. I don’t think they knew any of my beliefs before this point.
I know this is risky as I could lose clients, but I am not as concerned about this as I used to be. I believe God will replace anyone who leaves with someone who will be open to hear. I was told basically “is it wise for business to use your customers as a platform for your religious dogma?”. As I was pondering this, I kept hearing the question rephrased in my mind as “perhaps you need to keep God out of your work?”. Then, I was quickly made aware of the idea of how the entire system of business and work does not want God in it. That system is to make the guy at the top richer. The guy below him does the work. My intention is not to get political here. I just want to mention that God’s system is SO BACKWARD from the system of the World.
God tells us his Kingdom is not like the Worlds Kingdom. In God’s kingdom, it will be the guy at the BOTTOM now who will be the RICHEST and most powerful there. The first will be last and the last will be first. To me, this brings great comfort because we can do the “lower” things that need to be done and even have great joy that we are “counted worthy” to do them. Also, I kept going back to this thought of how we put God in a “box” and only bring him out at the prescribed times.
We don’t want him at our work or our schools, in our government or other places. We really don’t want him to appear at all unless WE decide. “God, I’ll see you again next Sunday at 11:30 and we will sing together and read your Word a bit, but after the hour is up I will have to leave you again”. Do we really think we get that privelage? I don’t think so. I think God is the very life inside us that makes our body move and do EVERTHING we do. We simply do not know it as our minds are veiled so we can’t see him. One day we will however and I bet we will be convicted of this truth if we aren’t already. That is the Holy Spirits job – to convict of unbelief (one remaining sin). So, I don’t say this to make us fear because he KNOWS our current state of blindness. We simply do not know we are blind. He is really right there with us. I think he is typing this message right along with me or doing whatever you are doing right now with you.
So, my response back to my client was basically “That is a great question. I am also wondering – Is it wise for business to shut God out? I am very concerned about God returning and what scripture says he will do with those (out of his disciplining love) who are ashamed of him?”
Maybe we should rethink this who idea of keeping God out of our daily work and everyday lives?
Something to think about…
Have you ever noticed anything strange in the genealogies of Adam after Noah?
Lately, something about the Genealogies of Adam and Noah have been luring me in to dig deeper. Everything seems fine up to Noah but then some strange things occur. I discovered that we actually have two creations growing alongside each other. One is the “wheat” and one is the “tares” as Jesus told us. In Genesis I believe these are the “seed” of the Serpent and we have the “seed of Eve” or seed of “mother of all creation” as she is called just after these verses. (Could her “seed” be related to Rev 12?) I believe “her seed” is God’s seed (Christ) and the serpent’s seed is Satan’s family and both are growing alongside each other on the same “Earth” (human bodies) but in different realms.
Both “seeds” are spiritual, but possibly one is in the Heavenly (higher) spiritual realm and one is in the Earthly (lower) spiritual realm. However, both inhabit a human body because they are the souls and spirits of man. Wherever they are, we do know they are against each other. Look at what God told the Serpent in Gen 3:15.
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed (Gen 3:15)
(Start small side thought)
Could this “woman” be the very spiritual woman in Revelation 12 where the “dragon” or “original serpent” was attempting to devour her baby?
(End small side thought)
So, I believe we can conclude that part of the Genealogy that comes from Adam is the seed of the “woman” and part of it is the seed of the serpent. Very intriguing! I love the mystery of God! Could he be telling us about the kingdom of darkness at the same time as he is telling us about the kingdom of light? Are they both growing together as one “mankind” in Adam? I believe so.
Thus, this morning I was digging into this and studying the Genealogy of Adam after I noticed some discrepancies in the genealogies after Noah. I believe there are NO errors in God’s Word which are the original languages, but man does translate his Word to different languages and can make errors. Unfortunately, man will even insert his own doctrine due to unbelief in the powerful promises of God or even to control others. Thus, sometimes we need to dig into the original Greek and Hebrew words and wait for the Lord (who is truth) to show us the meaning. An excellent site for doing this is www.biblehub.com.
However, I don’t believe we have a mistranslation here with the study of the genealogies because we are talking names which are easy to translate. I sense God wants to reveal something very powerful through Noah as he was a type or pointer to Christ. It is so amazing to see the entire event of Noah and what it says about God’s plan through his son Jesus. I believe the “Ark” was a pointer or sign of Jesus himself who not only brought in his entire “family” of Noah’s sons and wives, but also brought in two of every kind of “beast”. (I believe each of these tells us something very specific and awesome about Gods plan of salvation and there is NO thing in his Word that is unsignificant!) When they finally landed, the covenant that God makes with him is very revealing. I believe we can understand the New Covenant or the “promise” to Abraham much better by digging into the one he made with Noah – a type, pointer or sign of his Son Jesus. This is where I was parked before my earthly work started calling and customers needed help with technology. I was getting so excited and then “Earth called”.
As I was putting together the genealogies, I noticed that some things didn’t match up so I was going to look into it further. I believe this is always a sign God wants to reveal something deeper. I hope the Lord will reveal more on this and I will share what I find. Feel free to dig into it yourself and see directly what his Word and Spirit reveals. Feel free to share what you find in this thread. In the meantime, I was looking at the covenant God made with Noah and I don’t think we give this enough attention. I believe it will be very revealing to study this because Noah is a type or pointer of Christ. The agreement he made with Christ reveals the plan he has through and with his own son Jesus.
This brought me to these verses:
I establish My covenant with you; and all flesh shall never again be cut off by the water of the flood, neither shall there again be a flood to destroy the earth.” (Gen 9:11)
God tells Noah that he will NEVER again destroy all “flesh” by a flood. This is important because aren’t we told in Revelation and Daniel 9:26 that “the end shall come in a flood”? This is a great time to STOP and ask God “What exactly is ‘flesh'”? Could there also be two types of “flesh”? One is natural (human body) and one is spiritual? Could one be man’s fallen body (natural “flesh”) and one be man’s fallen SPIRIT (spiritual “flesh”) both under the power of darkness (The serpent)? Dig into it and see what you find. I think it will amaze and astound you and verses such as Gen 9:11 will take on whole new meaning!
Ok back to Noah and God after the flood. The next two verses are very exciting.
God said, “This is the sign of the covenant which I am making between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all successive generations; 13 I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth. (Gen 9:12-13)
God tells us in verses 12 and 13 that he will create a SIGN of this covenant and put it in the “cloud”. Physically and naturally we know this as a rainbow or God’s “bow” in the rain cloud. However, as we discussed previously, God is often telling us TWO things in his Word. One is natural and physical that our natural, carnal mind is aware of and the other is SPIRITUAL! The spiritual version is only understood through the Spirit as it speaks of God himself in the Spirit. Our natural mind understands the rainbow that we see in the physical clouds after the rain. However, could there also be a DEEPER, spiritual meaning to this “sign in the clouds”? I believe so and it is very exciting to see this. God tells us in the next couple verses more.
It shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow will be seen in the cloud, 15 and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” 17 And God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth.” (Gen 9:14-17)
(Start long side thought)
Here is a powerful thing that will reveal us amazing DEEP things of God. We can learn about him and the TRUE Spiritual creation from the created physical creation! Paul and Psalm 19:1-2 tell us that the things of God or the TRUE Spiritual meanings were always evident in the “Heavens” or our sky above us.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Rom 1:20)
The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. 2 Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge. (Psalm 19:1-2)
because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. (Rom 1:19)
When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, which You have ordained (Psalm 8:3)
We can know ABOUT God by studying his physical creation of the sky, clouds, Earth, moon, Sun even the Human Body! Look at what he reminds us of every time we see a rainbow – never will their be a flood that destroys all flesh. He reveals amazing things about himself this way and I can attested to it personally. Much of what God reveals about Adam and Eve can be learned from the study of the Earth, Sun and moon. Could the Earth, Sun and moon possibly be a sign or pointer describing man’s body, spirit and soul? 🙂
(End long side thought)
So, lets think about the sign that God placed in the sky to remind himself and us of his covenant with Noah. What exactly is the spiritual “bow”? At this point I a not sure but I do believe he WILL tell us if we seek the answer. Does God give us any clues? Are there other verses that tell us of “signs in the sky”?
By the way, here is a GREAT site to plug in a verse if you want to know more of what God is saying. It will give you a list of cross references and you will gain GREAT insight into the original verse. This site has proven to be one of my most valuable research tools to digging into the mysteries of God. http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/
(End side thought)
Let’s ponder some other powerful verses. Are they possibly related?
“And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. (Matt 24:30)
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth (Rev 12:1)
Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking. (Ezekiel 1:28)
Could they be related? Could this also be describing the TRUE bow which is spiritual in nature? Could God also be telling us that the “flood” at the end of time from Dan 9:26 is not a (natural) flood like we think? Could it be a spiritual flood of truth and the new (re)birth of all creation?
Here is something else I found. Dig around the Old testament in Isaiah and other books of prophecy a bit. Look for the words “birth pains” or “pain as a woman giving birth” that occur RIGHT after God pronounces JUDGMENT upon the people. What is God telling us?
VERY EXCITING TIMES INDEED!
Post your thoughts, comments and ideas here.
Have a great Friday.
(UPDATE 05/09/14 – If you want to discuss this topic or provide any feedback or thoughts, we have created a forum thread. Feel free to share your thoughts respectfully at this thread.)
Here is something that I am SO EXCITED to be sharing. I thank the Lord for this awesome privelage and I so thank you for reading this. I do hope you will share it with as many Bible-believing or just truth-seeking friends as you can. Let’s FEAST together.
By far, one of the MOST powerful things the Lord has revealed to his body has been what I have come to know as “types and shadows“. These can also be called metaphors or parables, but they can also be an actual event, person, place or thing that occurred in the Bible. The Old Testament is LOADED with them and begin to become unlocked once we understand the new covenant of Grace. These are so amazing and INCREDIBLE once you see this as it totally UNLOCKS the deeper meaning and truth found in God’s written Word. Let me give you an illustration from everyday life to show you what I am talking about.
Lets say you are going on a long road trip and you are driving down the highway and you are getting hungry. After a few miles you see a sign on the side of the road with a big hamburger on it that says “3 miles”. Now, do you stop and pullover by the sign and look for the hamburger there? Do you try to eat the SIGN? I am sure you won’t because you know it is only a “sign” or a pointer to show you or reveal to you where the REAL food is. The sign is not the “real substance” and will not feed you at all. It is only a “pointer” to where to find the food. Please, don’t try to eat the sign as it will give us terrible indigestion and may even cause us to get really sick. I am joking, but I think you will soon understand what I mean.
Why do signs exist? We NEED signs or we will starve. In our example, you were completely unaware of where to get food until you saw the sign. If you missed the sign, you will also miss the food because it is HIDDEN from your view at this point. If you see the sign, understand it, and go to where it sign says, you will get the REAL substance (food) and can EAT. This is EXACTLY what Gods Word is FULL OF!
And boy CAN YOU EAT! NON-STOP if you want to… Don’t worry, you will never get spiritually fat! 🙂 The great news is that you will become or really “manifest” (make appear in your everyday life) your “whole” or true person that you really are! You will live and love like never before. Who doesn’t want that?
Before we can do this, we have to learn how to recognize and then “read” or understand the signs in God’s Word or we will simply drive right by and go hungry. All of his real food or real truth (who IS Christ) is HIDDEN from our natural eyes and minds or “natural human thinking”. I have come to realize I have been driving right by HUGE signs that say “PRIME RIB” and “LOBSTER” for years while I was virtually starving for his suculent buffet. There is so much to eat and it is SO tasty and GOOD that I want to share it with you my friend. No matter how hungry you are there will always be baskets of leftovers.
Now, many of us are aware of some of these “signs” or “pointers” or “types and shadows” in God’s Word. However, we must be willing to keep looking and go MUCH DEEPER until the true picture (who IS Christ) begins to appear. This is the VERY key that unlocks the secrets of God’s plan! Let me show you what I mean with an example.
Have you ever read a verse and suddenly the word choices don’t make sense based on what you knew up to that point? For example, look at Matt 10:5
These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans (Matt 10:5)
Obviously, this is Jesus instructing his twelve disciples to go out and preach the Gospel. He tells them to not go the way of the “Gentiles”. What is a “Gentile”?
Most people know that in the Old Testament, a “gentile” is a non-Jewish person who was not given or under the Mosaic law and not part of the nation of Israel. Ok, now look at this other New Testament verse. It is telling us how to mediate a dispute with a fellow believer and how to handle if if they won’t cooperate.
“If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a “Gentile” and a tax collector (Matt 18:17)
We are told if a person refuses to listen to the Church, we should treat them as a “Gentile”. Doesn’t this seem strange? Is God telling us we should treat them like a “non-Jewish” person? NO! That’s crazy. All of us that are not physical Jews would technically be “Gentiles” under that definition. So, what does this mean? Why is it suddenly different?
This is very powerful to see. Under the New and one TRUE covenant of Grace, everything has changed! The term “Gentile” under the old PHYSICAL, NATURAL covenant of law meant “non-Jew” but under the new SPIRITUAL and TRUE covenant of Grace it means unbeliever! That may not seem like a big deal, but it really IS! It’s HUGE as I hope you will soon see. Believe me friend, under the new and TRUE covenant, EVERYTHING has changed! The old definition was NOT the truth. The truth was veiled during that (Old Covenant) time, but God is UNVEILING our minds to the TRUTH now. It can not be said ENOUGH! EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED! The very terms themselves have changed because the old covenant was only the “TYPE” or the sign (pointer) itself. It was not the actual FOOD! The REAL FOOD or REAL TRUTH or simply “the truth” (Christ) is so much better than eating a sign.
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Col 2:17-18)
Anything we “do” or think while in a human body is but a mere shadow whereas Christ alone is the truth. ANYONE can eat this FOOD (believe the truth) no matter what religion or denomination they are part of! Real truth has NO religion and is completely free.
They just have to want to know the truth. It’s that simple. Be a seeker of the truth.
Now we can replace the word “GENTILE” in the Bible with the word “UNBELIEVER”! Watch what happens! You will begin to see things like you never did before. The Bible will truly come alive INSIDE you when these powerful truths come into your awareness. Now, you are seeing and eating the TRUE food of Christ and drinking of the LIVING WATERS within as Jesus promised us! And that is only ONE! Believe me friend, there are HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS more PURE GOLD NUGGETS to dig up and feast from in God’s Word. But, wait that is only the beginning. We are only getting started. It gets MUCH better. Let’s look at another one.
Guess what the word “Jew” truly means? If you are tracking along, I bet you already know…
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. (Romans 2:28-29)
Paul just told us not ONE but THREE powerful truths overwriting three lies we believed! First, true circumcision is not of the body or the flesh, but of the HEART or inner spiritual man. Second, it’s done by GOD and not man. Finally, A TRUE JEW is a person who’s heart (real Spirit man) and NOT his flesh has been circumcized or cut way from the body of the flesh by GOD himself (without hands). Who is this? This is a BELIEVER! Paul confirms this in Col 2:11 when he reminds us what happened to a true believer at new birth.
and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; (Col 2:11)
Friend, this one verse is so powerful. This is how a true believer has NO sin! God cut away their true person who is Spirit from the “body of flesh” that is old sinful nature. This “body of flesh” or “sinful nature” has been quarantined to their fallen, dead body and will be permanently destroyed when the natural body dies. In the meantime, all sins or wrong behaviors are no longer attached to the person in any way. The real person who is soul and spirit (but not yet physical body) was cut away or “spiritually circumcised” from their sin which is now only in the dead, natural body. God placed the powerful “firewall of Christ” between them and they truly can NEVER sin anymore. Amazing huh? Ok, let’s get back to our topic. 🙂 I get so excited about these things as they are SO good!
(End Side point)
So, you can see the POWERFUL nature of “types and shadows” or pointers that point to a powerful truth (in the Spirit realm but also here with us all the time). Please don’t think the “spirit realm” is some place “out there” or a place that we are not! Our current physical realm is INSIDE of Christ (God) and inside of ALL truth. We just don’t yet see it all, but we will! God is EVERYWHERE and Christ (truth) is ONE with the father. Any truth that we stumble upon in any situation ever is Christ himself being unveiled or revealed to our veiled minds. This is happening ALL the time and it’s as simple as “realizing the truth”. There is NO religion involved and “unbelievers” are seeing Christ EVERYTIME they understand or “see truth”! They are a “believer” in that moment. See Romans 2:26. As long as we are seeking truth, we are seeking Christ.
How can this be? Wasn’t Christ a man who walked the earth two thousand years ago and died for my sins? If that is all we think he is, we are not yet seeing the true Christ who is MUCH BIGGER!
Could we only be seeing and worshipping the pointer or the sign and not the REAL CHRIST?
Check these verses out:
For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; 15 and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.
16 Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way NO longer. 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. 18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. (2 Cor 5:14-19)
My friend. These verses have a LOT OF MEAT here that we could chew on for weeks or longer. However, truth can also come to us in one POWERFUL flash or deep “ah-ha” moment! Look at verse 16 again especially the part bolded in RED. This point is one we must allow God to reveal to us. I believe he wants to do that RIGHT HERE and NOW. Are you willing to allow him to? I sure hope so.
Christ is MUCH bigger than the man who walked the Earth! Christ is as BIG as God himself. Christ IS God himself in a human body. Christ is ALSO all LIFE and ALL truth. Christ is ALL and IN ALL! (Col 1:17, 3:11) He (truth and life) holds ALL CREATION together. Now, do you see why in verse 16 we are told to NO LONGER recognize Christ according to a human body or as a man? That would make him SO small and puny. He is not and is deserving of SO MUCH MORE! He is HUGE and POWERFUL and GLORIOUS! We are also told to NO LONGER recognize ANYONE, “believer” or “unbeliever” (or whatever label we put on them) according to the flesh (man’s understanding or “view” based on outward appearances).
Even though Christ manifested himself to mankind as a man, lets begin to think of him as ALL TRUTH and ALL LIFE that exists no matter where it exists. Try replacing the name “Christ” with the word “truth” (or light or life) once and see what happens. Here is what I am saying… Christ the man was a SIGN or a pointer just like I have been talking about.
(Powerful and DEEP side truth 2) Please skip this one if it makes no sense.
Jesus merged or brought together the entire OLD PHYSICAL Covenant of signs, shadows, and pointers with the TRUE reality or substance of the Spirit, or simply what we call the TRUTH. The man Jesus brought all men and all physical CREATION while God’s spirit inside Jesus brought all truth and all reality. Together they reconciled or made one all creation. The man Jesus was the sign, but God or the Spirit of Jesus, was the truth. Together they became ONE! Why don’t we know this? We have not yet experienced this because we can’t yet see it (fully). But, we are getting parts. Bits and pieces of truth. You are getting a LOT OF IT here, maybe TOO MUCH! If we get too much, we choke and won’t believe it. That would be DUANE’S fault and not God’s. Sorry. Each and every time God reveals a truth to us we are one step closer to seeing and personally experiencing this amazing merge of creation and God (truth). At the end the entire VEIL will be removed an we will all IMMEDIATELY SEE it at once! Can you imagine this? I am getting goose bumps.
(End Powerful and DEEP side truth 1)
(Powerful side thought 2)
Check out the OT where God says he will give Israel a “sign”. This “sign” will be born of a virgin, etc. The truth is that he is ALL TRUTH that exists whether we put a religious name on it or not. I pray God unveils our minds to see this. This is so powerful. We have put Christ in a little box for too long. It’s time to see the powerful truth.
(END Powerful side thought 2)
(Yet another powerful side thought)
One more that is irresistible. What if what we know of as the “written Word” or the Bible itself is actually a “sign” or “pointer” itself that really points to the TRUE and LIVING Word who is Christ himself and ALL truth?
(End of “yet another” powerful side thought)
Sorry, that was a VERY POWERFUL “side thought” that was irresistible. I do hope it will FEED you though! Christ (truth) will either OFFEND us or FEED us as there is no in-between I am sorry to say. Back to signs and pointers.
In the written Word (Bible) the sign or pointer will usually be something in this current physical realm (ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT) that will point to a/the TRUTH in the spirit or TRUE realm. The pointer or sign is something or someone in the current, physical realm or natural existence and the true substance (truth) is in the spirit realm in Christ. As natural humans, we will understand the sign but will not see or understand the truth it points to unless it is revealed to our minds by God. The ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT is LOADED with types, signs and pointers! Once a person’s eyes are opened and they begin to see what God is REALLY saying, they will NEVER read the Bible the SAME! They will not want to put it down because Christ will have unlocked the true meaning for them. They will feast beyond belief on HIS LIFE and will not SHUT up about the amazing things they find. They will look at their neighbors and think “if only you knew that you have won the lottery but you can’t see the check in your mailbox!” Let me show you how to see your check for 100 billion dollars that you can begin to enjoy right now.
We could go on for days and weeks and months on the amazing things God has been revealing and they all connect together like the most awesome puzzle you could ever imagine. Beyond what you can imagine! That is why people don’t believe them, they are so good. TOO GOOD. We are trained in this world and this flesh to expect the worst and believe the lies that convince us that we should be punished.
We will be so excited when God reveals to us what “Earth”, “stars”, “sun” and “moon” are. He will show us what the “mountains” and “beasts” and “nations” are. You will be amazed when you see what “wine” and “grain” and “grass” and “sea” and “trees” and “kings of the Earth” are! They can mean the physical things, but that is often but a mere shadow or pointer. The real truth of what they “point to” is much more awesome and amazing. We could be reading a story or an event from the physical world we live in or the Israelites lived in, but that’s not the true meaning. The true meaning is much more powerful and glorious. Each truth that is revealed to us builds and enlarges our vision of him and how beautiful and lovely God is. His amazing story of love gets BIGGER and BIGGER! Paul was not joking when he says “God can do anything BEYOND what we can ask or EVEN IMAGINE!”
Let me show you another example. Look at this very scary sounding verse in Revelation 8:7.
The first sounded, and there came hail and fire, mixed with blood, and they were thrown to the earth; and a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. (Rev 8:7)
Once God opens our eyes and minds to signs and pointers, you will NO LONGER be afraid of verses like this! Look at the underlined “pointers” or signs in this verse. Our natural (human) mind sees them as physical things that are getting burned up causing pain and death. However, I am very confident God is talking about spiritual or TRUE (invisible) realities here and not physical things. What if God’s “fire” is not destructive? What if it really is refining and cleansing? What if the “bush does NOT burn up”? What if “hail” is what removes the lies we believe? What if “Earth” is not the physical Earth that we know but is the spiritual realm that contains both the physical creation and the spiritual creation? Imagine if the “Earth” that is burned up is the darkened spiritual side also called “Earth” where Satan still rules from (although defeated)?
Does God ever tell us in other places that Satan’s kingdom called “Earth” and “Edom” and “Babylon” will be FINALLY be fully destroyed? If so, Rev 8:7 is GREAT NEWS! Imagine if ALL of Satan’s DECEPTION that produced VEILED minds who are BLIND (to the truth) will be totally destroyed and all could see the lovely truth plainly? What if God revealed that “grass” really is “flesh” or self will or self-effort? What if “Green” meant anything powered by natural (green) human effort/life? Could “green” be simply what the Bible calls “works of the flesh”? If so, then anything that man has done himself will be DESTROYED! However, what will happen to man? What if God revealed to us the answer in 1 Corinthians 3:15 but we walked right by the sign?
My friend, there is so much more waiting. It is so exciting to see these most powerful truths. It is going to break down all the walls of separation we have in our own minds that play out in the world.
Want to be fed right now? Start replacing the word “gentile” with “unbeliever”. Better yet replace it with “someone who hasn’t yet seen the truth in this situation”. We can also replace “Jew” with “someone that God has revealed the truth to”. There are many more. Time to feast! You will be amazed and astounded. I pray the Lord is willing that it can be shared what he has revealed about Adam and Eve, Noah and MUCH more. The WHOLE entire BOOK of Genesis, Daniel and Revelation is being unlocked these days and we are seeing the truth for the first time. I am convinced we don’t need to fear any huge beasts. God is in total control and he loves us. He created us in HIS IMAGE! We just need to FEAR self righteousness and trying to earn ANY of our own salvation! We just need to rest and fully trust in his righteousness (Christ who is all Truth) and not any of our own while continuously seeking more and deeper truth. This is seeking HIM! Once we do, we will quickly realize we have NOTHING to FEAR and will begin to enter into his rest of the 7th day. These truly are very exciting times to be alive.
God bless you my friend.
Are you “free”?
This is simple yet very profound. Let’s ask again “Are you free?”
Spend some time thing about this. Is there anything in your being, life or existence that is keeping you from feeling FREE and experiencing full FREEDOM?
If, like me sometimes, you feel there is something that is keeping you from being totally free then I hope you will hear this. Think about these words that Jesus said in John 8:32:
and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Ok look at these simple yet LIFE-FREEING words and answer a couple simple questions.
What will make you free?
Answer: The truth.
How does one create or obtain the truth? What must one DO to obtain “truth”?
Trick question??? NOPE! God does not trick us. The answer is RIGHT there!
Answer: He does NOTHING! He just KNOWS it ! What does it mean when someone suddenly “knows” something? He just believes it or receives it!
The lie that we have believed TOO LONG is that we have to “DO” SOMETHING to make truth happen. We don’t! That was done by God and IS GOD. HE IS TRUTH and we do NOTHING to make it or change it. It’s impossible for man to impact or change truth. He can only receive it. If he believes otherwise, he is blinded by pride and arrogance. Only God alone is truth.
THIS IS SUCH SIMPLE and AWESOME NEWS!
We can only “know” the truth. We can only finally “SEE” it and recieve it personally but it ALREADY full existed BEFORE we received it personally as our experience. This is what we call human “belief” or receiving the truth in our soul and living it. It already fully existed before we did this and is unchangeable.
Please ponder this today and this week and when you do, ask yourself “Am I already free?”
When you know the truth of this answer, it WILL FREE YOU! IMMEDIATELY!
God bless and have a great day.