Who died with Christ?

Who died with Christ?

I just came across these verses that are POWERFUL and SIMPLE yet take GREAT faith to believe them.

Now, ask yourself “Who died with Christ?”  Did everyone die with Christ?  Even unbelievers? 

For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died (2 Corinthians 5:14 NASB)

Ok, you have that answer as to who died with Christ?  Jesus is telling you from within I am sure of it.  Now, check this verse out.

It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him  (2 Timothy 2:11)

Remember, this can NOT be false!   Let’s praise God’s amazing love together.

Duane

How often have you looked at the events of Genesis 1 and 2 accounts of the creation of man and were confused because things didn’t quite add up?

If you have, you are not alone.  Some of the events are out of order from the two accounts.  You can look yourself or do a Google search on “Genesis 1 and 2 order of creation” and read about it.  It is a common way people will discard Genesis or maybe even not believe God’s Word altogether.  There is an answer, however.

As I wrote in my last article, I believe the answer is to see that Genesis 1 is the creation of the spiritual side of the realm called “Earth” and Genesis 2 is the “forming” of the physical, natural side which includes man or “Adam” as we know him.  Although some of the things created in Genesis 1 could be physical too, I believe God is mainly talking of the spiritual creation including spiritual man in Genesis 1:26-30.  This spiritual man is the one who would rule the entire Earthly kingdom including all the Heavenly hosts or God’s angels assigned to Earth. Was this Adam?  It is supposed to be, but the process has never fully completed in space and time in the realm of physical Earth.  Christ came and completed it and one day we will see the second Adam rule all the Earthly kingdom. In the meantime, there is a temporary, false ruler who is defeated and on his way out.  But, lets get back to Genesis 1 man who is male and female spirit beings.

Is there any other evidence to show us that Genesis 1 man is not the “first Adam” or “natural man” that we are familiar with?

Yes there is.  Let’s look at very powerful clue.

Let’s go to Genesis 9 just after the flood when Noah (a type of Christ) left his Ark and God made a covenant with him.  Noah was a natural man right?  Was he not a descendent of the “first Adam”?  If so, we would expect him to be given the same food to eat as Adam was, by God.  Up to this time, mankind or descendants of first Adam (natural man) was not allowed to eat meat or the flesh of animals.  God was now allowing natural man to eat meat (flesh of animals) only he could not eat the blood.  See Gen 9:3.

Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant (Gen 9:3)

This is great news because I love steak.  🙂  However, there is something very interesting here.  Look at what God says at the end.  He adds “as I gave the green plant“.  This is odd.  Do you know why?  Go back to Genesis 1 and look at the food that God gave to mankind and to the “beasts”.  Remember, he is talking to Genesis 1 mankind.

Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so (Gen 1:29-30)

So, according to Genesis 1:30 who did God give the “green plant for food“?

Not to mankind!  He gave it to the BEASTS of the Earth, birds of the sky and every thing that moves on the Earth which has life.  How can this be since God told us in Genesis 9:3 that he gave Adam’s descendent Noah “the green plant for food”?

I believe The reason is because Adam as we know him or “natural man” was NOT Genesis 1 spiritual mankind! 

Adam as we know him, who is natural and has a human body was Genesis 2 man who was (physically) “formed” and not created.  Adam was a natural living being formed from the dust of the ground and given the natural “breath of life” just like an animal or “beast” who had natural life.  However, the much stronger, kingdom-ruling Genesis 1 man is a powerful spiritual being who would rule the ENTIRE Earthly Kingdom.  There were not (yet) the same being, but Christ would come and complete this merging or “reconciling” work.  This is one of the main reasons why Jesus came was to finish this work started in Genesis 1 and 2.

Christ would finally reconcile or merge the spiritual ruling Kingdom of Earth with the natural subordinate, physical kingdom of natural man. 

He came to merge Genesis 1 spiritual man with Genesis 2 physical, natural man!  We don’t yet “see” this fully, but I believe it fully and finally happened at the cross where the present rulers of darkness were “stripped of their authority”.  Earth and it’s spiritual ruling side are fully merged as one ALONG WITH HEAVEN ITSELF!  We are simply waiting for God to unveil our minds to this truth in space and time.  If God says it will happen for Jim next Thursday at 3:05pm, it WILL OCCUR.  He WILL BEGIN to believe and see the truth of Christ.  For now, the rest of creating including all natural mankind is waiting for this to occur while “groaning” under the power of darkness because he can’t see this finished work from his still-darkened body.  Check out these very powerful verses:

For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. (Rom 8:19-21)

My friend, this is so beautiful.  God promises us he will SET THE ENTIRE CREATION free from the bondage of darkness, sin an death.  Here is a beautiful key to watch for in scripture.

For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now (Rom 8:22)

The whole creation was subjected to the curse by God.  The whole creation will be REBORN into Christ and you could argue strongly that it already has but we simply can’t see it.  The entire creation has already been placed into Christ at the cross.  Col 3:11 tells us “Christ is in ALL” and Col 1:27 says “Christ is in you” speaking to “gentiles” who are (spiritually speaking) unbelievers.  Could we all just be waiting for Gods appointed time for each person’s spiritual eyes to be opened?  I believe that’s what his Word tells us.  At one point called the “Day of the Lord” he will reveal HIMSELF to all mankind.  He will not “return” like we are taught. HE IS ALREADY HERE!  We (true believers) are his BODY! See Ephesians 5:30  Where are we?  Are we not “here” on Earth still yet we are told we were also raised WITH HIM and seated WITH HIM in heavenly places?  Could the most simple answer be that Heaven is not some place “up there” or “out there”, but right here on Earth!?!  Didn’t Jesus tell us himself that “the Kingdom of Heaven will not come like man says because it is within you“!?!  I strongly suspect that those “heavenly places” we can’t yet see are HERE NOW but our natural brains and minds are still veiled to them.  God promises to remove the veil for ALL Nations on his day! Is. 25:7  In the meantime, we can only see truth by faith that he gives us or when we leave these natural bodies at physical death.   However, the work is finished according to Jesus at the cross.

This is indeed very exciting!  In the meantime, we are waiting, expecting and hoping.  Hebrews 2 reminds us of Gods plan for man.

 For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking. But one has testified somewhere, saying,

What is man, that You remember him?
Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
You have made him for a little while lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
And have appointed him over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” (Heb 2:5-8)

Verse 8 tells us Gods plan for the second and TRUE (spiritual) Adam.  However, we do not yet see this.  We are still waiting for this finished work to simply “appear”.

For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him (Heb 2:9)

Christ finished the work that was started in Genesis 1.  He fully merged the power of Genesis 1 spiritual man with Genesis 2 natural man and then the entire realm of Earth with Heaven itself.  He removed any separation and barriers.  This is why the “veil” was rent or torn.  The veil was his body, but it was also the very veil or “expanse” in Genesis 1:6-7 that separated Earth from Heaven!  We don’t yet “see” it as we can’t in these veiled bodies, but we will according to Gods plan.  The mere fact that we are now seeing things in his Word that we NEVER have before could indicate that we are getting closer.  He is unveiling our minds to more and more truth each day.

This is an exciting time to be alive!  As more and more people see these powerful truths, the entire World really will be changed as Christ (and HEAVEN itself!) is revealed RIGHT BEFORE OUR very EYES!

Hopefully this article helped to reconcile some of the questions that exist between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 along with revealing some of God’s glorious plan for man.  I also wrote more about this in the last article called Jesus or Satan?  Connecting Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 man”

I hope you will seek the truth found in his Word on these amazing things.

Duane

 

 

 

Who is the Master?

Who is the Master?

I pray you are doing better than my body is today.  I injured myself lifting weights 5 days ago and now I REALLY know what a sciatic nerve is.  How painful!  Don’t we take our bodies for granted until they rebel?  I know I sure do it seems.

I want to share something very powerful that God finally revealed to me today.  Something I have been digging and digging on yet couldn’t find the connection so I let it go and “simmer”.  God can make that happen in a flash and I guess he felt today was the time.  It’s so cool when he allows that to happen, isn’t it?

Thus, today I had a powerful breakthrough on Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 man. I knew for a while now that Genesis 1 man is/was fully spiritual with full spiritual reigning power of the spiritual realm of “Earth” whereas Genesis 2 man (Adam) was physical and natural including his spirit! It’s important to know that even his spirit was “natural” so that’s why I repeated it. Natural just means “downgraded”, “not full strength”, or submissive and veiled to God or spiritual things.   We know natural man is completely veiled to the things of God and can not see or understand them right?

Here is where it went “POP” today when I was reading a “discussion” between two guys on a forum about Genesis 6:1-5 about the “sons of God” marrying the “daughters of men”.  This set of verses has always intrigued me. This is really cool. I hope you stay with me on this and think about it carefully while digging into Gen 1, 2 and Romans 6-8 again after reading this.  I believe you will see what I am saying.

Remember how Genesis 1 it says that mankind were made “male and female”? For the longest time God had not revealed what that meant because I was totally convinced it was powerful spiritual man who rules Earth’s spiritual kingdom and NOT the natural or physical creation.  Please note that both Genesis 1 and 2 man rules over the “beasts” and animals of the earth, birds of the air and fish of the sea.  However, Genesis 1 is the spiritual realm and they are not physical animals and physical fish but rather fallenangels or “birds” and fallen man or “beasts”, etc.  In Genesis 2, it IS the physical realm or the actual animals and fish and birds that Adam (physical man) would rule over.  This is the realm we are familiar with.  They are different realms completely though from Genesis 1 (spiritual) and Genesis 2 (natural, physical)!

They are two completely different “mankind” from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2!  One is spiritual in Genesis 1 and one is physical or natural in Genesis 2.

Ok, with that background in place, think about marriage and the creation of offspring. The “husband” or male produces the “seed” and joins with the “wife” to produce offspring. This would mean that Genesis 1 male spiritual being is the leader and more powerful one and that the Genesis 1 female spiritual being is the more submissive one that is dominated or ruled over by the male spirit. Are you with me so far?

If so, just who are these “male” or dominate powerful spirit beings and “female” submissive spirit beings.

Well, the “female” spirit of Genesis 1 man is none other than “fallen” or natural mankind’s human spirit! It or “she” is controlled and taken into captivity from birth by who? Well, the husband or male (ruler or “father”) spirit of Genesis 1! Can you guess who this is? Who is the ruler of this present fallen world (still)? Who is the personification or “father of sin”?

Let’s look at some scripture to find out.

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. (John 8:44)

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. (1 John 3:8)

These verses are NOT METAPHORS!  Jesus was telling the absolute, solemn truth here!  The Devil REALLY WAS the “father” or “husband” of the unbelieving person he was talking to.  He was married to their spirit and controlled their spirit keeping it under the power of darkness so it was unable to see God and have any faith.  Amazing huh?  Sounds crazy?  Think about it a while.  It will come to you if you are open to the truth.

Satan is really Genesis 1 male Spirit! How he got that position is a whole other topic, but all indications show that he started good (maybe as Lucifer in Is 14) and sinned and became “darkness” and “evil”. He gained power and control of all Earth’s spiritual realm and all mankind’s spirits who are the “female” or submissive side of Genesis 1 mankind but also the physical beings (Adam) in Genesis 2. When he inhabits one, he is it’s “master” or “husband”.

Satan IS sin and the “father” or originator of ALL sin just like Jesus IS righteousness and the source of all righteousness!

This is very powerful because now you can go and read Romans 6-8 and anytime you see “sin” put the word “Satan” in there. Anytime you see the word “righteousness” put “Jesus” in there. Believers and unbelievers spirits (and souls) are the “wives” or “bride” and Jesus or Satan is the husband. Satan and his “wives” (unbelieving, natural spirits and souls) are under the power of darkness which is the law! This is sin and death which separates him and unbelievers from God.  God tells us in the OT that he “wrapped him (Lucifer/Satan) in darkness”.  I believe it is in Ezekiel but you can dig into it.  It’s really amazing.

Thus, at new (spiritual) rebirth, a person’s soul and spirit becomes joined or “married” to Christ who IS righteousness. The person is no longer attached to “sin” or Satan in any way (as Christ is now their husband FOREVER!) but their body will die because it is still part of the natural creation yet under the curse. It still has this power of death in it (sin/separation) and must die. But, the person is now fully ONE with LIFE and RIGHTEOUSNESS who IS CHRIST to live FOREVER!

Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.  (John 6:47)

Jesus is the TRUE Genesis 1 spiritual MAN (while Satan is the FALSE version of this fallen World) or the “male” part of God’s spirit that finally joins with natural man’s spirit (and soul) to make him WHOLE finally!

This is so amazing and I thank the Lord for finally revealing this connection. Suddenly so many things are coming together especially when God talks about marriage. He is REALLY talking about the union of a person’s soul/spirit with Christ or Satan. They are either a slave (married) to sin as unbeliever or a slave (married) to righteousness as believer with NO mixing EVER!  All the old creation is under the curse of darkness/separation and WILL DIE.  But, the GREAT news is that the blood has reconciled ALL creation and ALL creation will PASS THROUGH IT to be REBORN!

namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:19)

Isn’t this amazing? This, my friend is the TRUE and most amazing sovereign plan of God!

Now, you can go back through Romans 6-8 and see a whole NEW story.  The truth!

Feel free to share a comment below or write any questions or comments in this forum link.

Have a great Sunday.

Today I received a response from one of my long-time customers because I took a risk sharing some things related to God and not computer or business related.  I don’t think they knew any of my beliefs before this point.

I know this is risky as I could lose clients, but I am not as concerned about this as I used to be. I believe God will replace anyone who leaves with someone who will be open to hear. I was told basically “is it wise for business to use your customers as a platform for your religious dogma?”. As I was pondering this, I kept hearing the question rephrased in my mind as “perhaps you need to keep God out of your work?”. Then, I was quickly made aware of the idea of how the entire system of business and work does not want God in it. That system is to make the guy at the top richer. The guy below him does the work. My intention is not to get political here. I just want to mention that God’s system is SO BACKWARD from the system of the World.

God tells us his Kingdom is not like the Worlds Kingdom.  In God’s kingdom, it will be the guy at the BOTTOM now who will be the RICHEST and most powerful there. The first will be last and the last will be first. To me, this brings great comfort because we can do the “lower” things that need to be done and even have great joy that we are “counted worthy” to do them. Also, I kept going back to this thought of how we put God in a “box” and only bring him out at the prescribed times.

We don’t want him at our work or our schools, in our government or other places. We really don’t want him to appear at all unless WE decide. “God, I’ll see you again next Sunday at 11:30 and we will sing together and read your Word a bit, but after the hour is up I will have to leave you again”. Do we really think we get that privelage? I don’t think so. I think God is the very life inside us that makes our body move and do EVERTHING we do. We simply do not know it as our minds are veiled so we can’t see him. One day we will however and I bet we will be convicted of this truth if we aren’t already. That is the Holy Spirits job – to convict of unbelief (one remaining sin). So, I don’t say this to make us fear because he KNOWS our current state of blindness. We simply do not know we are blind. He is really right there with us. I think he is typing this message right along with me or doing whatever you are doing right now with you.

So, my response back to my client was basically “That is a great question. I am also wondering – Is it wise for business to shut God out? I am very concerned about God returning and what scripture says he will do with those (out of his disciplining love) who are ashamed of him?”

Maybe we should rethink this who idea of keeping God out of our daily work and everyday lives? 

Something to think about…

Have you ever noticed anything strange in the genealogies of Adam after Noah?

Lately, something about the Genealogies of Adam and Noah have been luring me in to dig deeper.  Everything seems fine up to Noah but then some strange things occur.  I discovered that we actually have two creations growing alongside each other.  One is the “wheat” and one is the “tares” as Jesus told us.  In Genesis I believe these are the “seed” of the Serpent and we have the “seed of Eve” or seed of “mother of all creation” as she is called just after these verses.  (Could her “seed” be related to Rev 12?)   I believe “her seed” is God’s seed (Christ) and the serpent’s seed is Satan’s family and both are growing alongside each other on the same “Earth” (human bodies) but in different realms.

Both “seeds” are spiritual, but possibly one is in the Heavenly (higher) spiritual realm and one is in the Earthly (lower) spiritual realm.  However, both inhabit a human body because they are the souls and spirits of man.  Wherever they are, we do know they are against each other.   Look at what God told the Serpent in Gen 3:15.

And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed (Gen 3:15)

(Start small side thought)
Could this “woman” be the very spiritual woman in Revelation 12 where the “dragon” or “original serpent” was attempting to devour her baby?
(End small side thought)

So, I believe we can conclude that part of the Genealogy that comes from Adam is the seed of the “woman” and part of it is the seed of the serpent.  Very intriguing! I love the mystery of God!  Could he be telling us about the kingdom of darkness at the same time as he is telling us about the kingdom of light?   Are they both growing together as one “mankind” in Adam?  I believe so.

Thus, this morning I was digging into this and studying the Genealogy of Adam after I noticed some discrepancies in the genealogies after Noah. I believe there are NO errors in God’s Word which are the original languages, but man does translate his Word to different languages and can make errors.  Unfortunately, man will even insert his own doctrine due to unbelief in the powerful promises of God or even to control others.  Thus, sometimes we need to dig into the original Greek and Hebrew words and wait for the Lord (who is truth) to show us the meaning.  An excellent site for doing this is www.biblehub.com.

However, I don’t believe we have a mistranslation here with the study of the genealogies because we are talking names which are easy to translate. I sense God wants to reveal something very powerful through Noah as he was a type or pointer to Christ. It is so amazing to see the entire event of Noah and what it says about God’s plan through his son Jesus. I believe the “Ark” was a pointer or sign of Jesus himself who not only brought in his entire “family” of Noah’s sons and wives, but also brought in two of every kind of “beast”.  (I believe each of these tells us something very specific and awesome about Gods plan of salvation and there is NO thing in his Word that is unsignificant!) When they finally landed, the covenant that God makes with him is very revealing.  I believe we can understand the New Covenant or the “promise” to Abraham much better by digging into the one he made with Noah – a type, pointer or sign of his Son Jesus. This is where I was parked before my earthly work started calling and customers needed help with technology. I was getting so excited and then “Earth called”.

As I was putting together the genealogies, I noticed that some things didn’t match up so I was going to look into it further. I believe this is always a sign God wants to reveal something deeper. I hope the Lord will reveal more on this and I will share what I find. Feel free to dig into it yourself and see directly what his Word and Spirit reveals.  Feel free to share what you find in this thread.  In the meantime, I was looking at the covenant God made with Noah and I don’t think we give this enough attention. I believe it will be very revealing to study this because Noah is a type or pointer of Christ. The agreement he made with Christ reveals the plan he has through and with his own son Jesus.

This brought me to these verses:

I establish My covenant with you; and all flesh shall never again be cut off by the water of the flood, neither shall there again be a flood to destroy the earth.”  (Gen 9:11)

God tells Noah that he will NEVER again destroy all “flesh” by a flood. This is important because aren’t we told in Revelation and Daniel 9:26 that “the end shall come in a flood”?  This is a great time to STOP and ask God “What exactly is ‘flesh'”?   Could there also be two types of “flesh”? One is natural (human body) and one is spiritualCould one be man’s fallen body (natural “flesh”) and one be man’s fallen SPIRIT (spiritual “flesh”) both under the power of darkness (The serpent)?  Dig into it and see what you find.  I think it will amaze and astound you and verses such as Gen 9:11 will take on whole new meaning!

Ok back to Noah and God after the flood.  The next two verses are very exciting.

God said, “This is the sign of the covenant which I am making between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all successive generations; 13 I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth. (Gen 9:12-13)

God tells us in verses 12 and 13 that he will create a SIGN of this covenant and put it in the “cloud”. Physically and naturally we know this as a rainbow or God’s “bow” in the rain cloud. However, as we discussed previously, God is often telling us TWO things in his Word. One is natural and physical that our natural, carnal mind is aware of and the other is SPIRITUAL!  The spiritual version is only understood through the Spirit as it speaks of God himself in the Spirit. Our natural mind understands the rainbow that we see in the physical clouds after the rain. However, could there also be a DEEPER, spiritual meaning to this “sign in the clouds”? I believe so and it is very exciting to see this. God tells us in the next couple verses more.

It shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow will be seen in the cloud, 15 and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” 17 And God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth.” (Gen 9:14-17)

(Start long side thought)
Here is a powerful thing that will reveal us amazing DEEP things of God. We can learn about him and the TRUE Spiritual creation from the created physical creation!  Paul and Psalm 19:1-2 tell us that the things of God or the TRUE Spiritual meanings were always evident in the “Heavens” or our sky above us.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Rom 1:20)

The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. 2 Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge. (Psalm 19:1-2)

because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. (Rom 1:19)

When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, which You have ordained (Psalm 8:3)

We can know ABOUT God by studying his physical creation of the sky, clouds, Earth, moon, Sun even the Human Body!  Look at what he reminds us of every time we see a rainbow – never will their be a flood that destroys all flesh. He reveals amazing things about himself this way and I can attested to it personally. Much of what God reveals about Adam and Eve can be learned from the study of the Earth, Sun and moon. Could the Earth, Sun and moon possibly be a sign or pointer describing man’s body, spirit and soul?  🙂
(End long side thought)

So, lets think about the sign that God placed in the sky to remind himself and us of his covenant with Noah.  What exactly is the spiritual “bow”?  At this point I a not sure but I do believe he WILL tell us if we seek the answer.  Does God give us any clues?  Are there other verses that tell us of “signs in the sky”?

(Side thought)
By the way, here is a GREAT site to plug in a verse if you want to know more of what God is saying.  It will give you a list of cross references and you will gain GREAT insight into the original verse. This site has proven to be one of my most valuable research tools to digging into the mysteries of God.  http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/
(End side thought)

Let’s ponder some other powerful verses.  Are they possibly related?

“And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. (Matt 24:30)

A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth (Rev 12:1)

Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness all around.  Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking. (Ezekiel 1:28)

Could they be related?  Could this also be describing the TRUE bow which is spiritual in nature?  Could God also be telling us that the “flood” at the end of time from Dan 9:26 is not a (natural) flood like we think?  Could it be a spiritual flood of truth and the new (re)birth of all creation?

Here is something else I found.  Dig around the Old testament in Isaiah and other books of prophecy a bit.  Look for the words “birth pains” or “pain as a woman giving birth” that occur RIGHT after God pronounces JUDGMENT upon the people.  What is God telling us?

VERY EXCITING TIMES INDEED!

Post your thoughts, comments and ideas here.

Have a great Friday.

Duane

Do you ever think about what it means to be a “Human being“?

I realize that almost all of my life I have been a human “doing” always striving and struggling to become something other than what I simply was.  I never ever really arrived at the place I was trying to reach.   I have concluded it was all an illusion.  I believe this is a struggle of the entire human family.

I see it in myself, my family, my children.  Everyone I know. I believe is why it has always been so difficult connecting with and talking to the family I grew up in.  They were and still are a strong family of “doers”. They have always been this way and most of their existence still to this day is based on “doing” to become or striving.  This was my struggle, but God seemed to have different plans.  God started putting me through his refining fire and I had to let go of “doing to become.  I simply no choice when faced with thick impenetrable walls of hopelessness.  I kept being put into situations that where there was nothing I could do but surrender.  It was very difficult, but I had to let go and learn to fully trust God.  For me, this is ongoing as I do pick it back up at times and believe I am still “running the show”.  I  have found that this “striving to become” is much stronger in men than women as men are very task oriented. Men are also much more disconnected from their true heart and feelings because of this.  I know coming from a family of six men, no girls and having two boys myself. I see it in my boys, my brothers and myself.  Men are trained in this culture to be this way.  Coincidence?  I don’t think so.  I believe they are completely related.  The more task oriented a person is, the more they are disconnected from their true being, their true heart and true feelings.  They do not know who they are.

Am I wrong?  I don’t think I am.

This all changes when God begins to break the outer man who is based ondoing“.  This is not a pleasant event or process.  It feels like death and that’s what the Bible calls it – death of “self”.  It is all part of the “baptism of fire” when a person is immersed or “baptized” into God’s very Spirit.  Check out Matt 3:11:

“As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire (Matt 3:11)

God’s fire does hurt like a place that is VERY hot, but it doesn’t destroy you.  God’s fire is not destructive like fire in the natural realm.  His fire really refines you and removes the “dross” like a good blacksmith does to gold.  God’s fire are all the difficult and painful life circumstances that we are put in where we found ourselves helpless or powerless.  It is painful and man calls it “death to self”. This selfish outer man is the blindness that keeps us from not only seeing God, but seeing ourselves, our true self as well.  This selfish outer man is very clever and deceptive and he will use any and all things to remain on the throne.  He is very clever at hiding in religious activities so we can’t “see” him.  God sees him though as he can’t hide from God.  God will break him.  Once God breaks him and the outer man finally cracks, then and only then can LIFE spring forth from the living waters that Jesus promised – the Spirit of God himself.  Then God can really use a person for his Kingdom purposes of Life.  The life that flows out is God’s very life of Christ inside but we must experience first death just like he did in order to experience his life.  See 2 Cor 4:10.

always carrying about in the body the dying of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body (2 Cor 4:10)

Is this just for “believers”?

Not according to Jesus in Mark 9:49.

For everyone will be salted with fire Mark 9:49

All of us enter into this world believing WE are God and in charge of our lives.  Our self-powered and “self-willed” life truly must die first in order to live our true and real life – Christ.  When this begins to occur a person truly begins to enter rest because they stop “doing to become” and instead truly realize they are already there!  But it is not without a lot of struggle to “let go”.  They will also begin to see all the painful circumstances and things that happened in their life as all part of God’s sovereign plan and purpose for them.  This is a powerful and intimate time with God and they will realize something else very basic yet amazing.

They are a human “be”-ing. 

They no longer “do”, they just “be”.  They are entering the 7th spiritual day of God’s rest.  They have entered the “promised land” of God – Christ himself.   Now, this is all experience only.  They were already there in their true inner man, their spirit man when they believed.  But, now that truth is manifesting or breaking through to their outer, natural man where our experience or “soul” takes place.  Now we actually see it happening in our normal, everyday life.

This is an amazingly powerful transformation process that is very painful at times, but when they get across the river Jordan there are many rewards. They know many new things.  They know that Christ really DID finish the work at the cross. Christ really did fully and finally complete Adam. Of course, this is all true in the realm of truth or the spirit for now, but this is where man starts to know this. Deep inside himself. It is from this deep place that this powerful truth begins to give him rest. And then it works its way outward to his outer man and into the natural physical realm.

And begins to KILL him. That’s right. It destroys him. The outer man has to die.  He is all about “doing” and not “being”.  He does not understand the finished work.  He has NO faith but is only under law due to self-righteousness.  I don’t mean he has to die physically, but that is the ULTIMATE finale of him.  I hope he will “die” or surrender before the body dies, but it is up to the father.  I mean he has to stop “trying” to become and trying to strive to become something other than who God says he is.  He has put us under law and we have received his condemnation, guilt and shame far too long.   He has to be shut up. God will shut him up. That is what the law does. It shuts up and puts to death the outer man or the flesh. He will eventually surrender if God wills it while the body is alive.  If not he will fully surrender (die) when our natural body dies.  Hopefully, it is before he dies physically. Once he is “dead”, then and only then, can a person’s TRUE life spring forth who is CHRIST himself!

But, he is very clever as he hides in our fallen human bodies.  He will NOT give up the fight completely until our natural bodies die.  He is always trying to work his way back onto the throne of your life in very subtle, clever and deceptive ways.   I suspect he is even writing part of this message.  We have to continue to ask God to show him to us so we can stand still and allow God to kill him again.  This process called “repentance” is ongoing and the quicker we can do this the less pain we feel.  It really is an ongoing process to fight and stay in God’s rest.

Entering God’s rest

Once the outer man gives up and “dies”, then a person can enter the true rest, God’s rest of the 7th day. It can’t be entered by any law-based thinking of the outer man or by any part of the outer, natural man as that is the one who is against us here. Only Joshua (Jesus) can take you across the Jordan to the land of Canaan (promised land of rest).  And you can only get there by the full death (surrender) of the outer man.  This happens once the father stops the “waters” of the Jordan” that were stopped all the way back to the city of Adam! 

Do you see the powerful thing God has been telling us in the Old Testament?

Once a person experiences this most powerful crossing of the Jordan with Jesus their guide, they realize they really do NO LONGER LIVE and that it really is Christ who lives in and through them.  Gal 2:20   They have entered the true rest of God.  They have tasted of the Heavenly realm and will not want anything else.  They will cross back and forth over the Jordan in their experiences, but they themselves always remain in Canaan.  God will continue to provide victory and rest as we stay close to his feet and stare into his eyes.

This is one powerful experience my friend that I hope and pray we will all experience if we haven’t already.  It’s FULL surrender of EVERYTHING!  For some of us like me who are very stubborn, it takes a lot of pain and suffering to arrive at.  The reward is most awesome I believe.

This is the beginning of a person’s real and true life – Christ.

Enjoy this journey.