I found the following question(s) were posted online in a Christian forum. This is a great question that I believe a LOT of people have and personally grapple with.
Revelation 13:8 – and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
So what do you think of this passage?
Do you agree this passage is clear, unequivocal and self-evident to the reader: Certain individuals are preordained to be destroyed by fire on the day of judgment?
I think the person who asked the above question also has this verse in mind:
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire Rev 20:15
Here is what I hear from within based on what I know of God’s goodness as revealed in his Word.
There is much more going on here than we see with our natural eyes and minds.
First, we must understand that God’s fire is a SPIRITUAL fire that is HOLY and not destructive in the way that natural fire is. This is why the “burning bush” was not consumed. God’s fire is refining and purifying removing ALL the impurities in us through trials and tribulations or “trials by fire”. This is our personal “tribulation” and all of us will be “salted” or purified by his holy, cleansing fire.
“For everyone will be salted with fire Mark 9:49
It’s only a matter of “When?” – this age (life of natural body) or the next?
Study and ponder the meaning of the world “fire” in “God’s holy fire” in the Word. It’s the Greek word “pur” which is where we get the word “purity” and “purify”. Strong’s Greek: 4442. πῦρ (pur) — fire
God’s fire does NOT destroy us, our true selves which is our inner spirit man. It does destroy the outer man as he is under law/death which is the cleansing side of God’s fire. Ponder this verse and never forget that God is good and God is love.
“But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap Malachi 3:2
This “day” is not a 24 hour day. It’s a spiritual day and it’s different for everyone according to God’s plan for them. Some of us are fortunate enough to have this spiritual “day” occur in this life in the natural body. This is us experiencing God’s judgment while IN the natural body. This is because God’s judgment begins at HIS house (body).
For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17
The ones who “obey” are the ones who believe now in this life while in the natural body. Not all will, but only a relative “few” in this age of the natural body. The ones that do are in the “household of God’ or his body of Christ. The rest don’t yet “obey” or believe. God WILL refine, purify and purge all evil from everyone through the process of death (to self or outer man).
Did you know that according to Mark 15:32 and Matt 27:42 that “the Christ (God’s body/household) is STILL on the “cross” dying? Look at the verse, the word “now” is the Greek word “nyn” and it means RIGHT NOW at this very present moment.
“Let this Christ, the King of Israel, now come down from the cross, so that we may see and believe!” Those who were crucified with Him were also insulting Him Mark 15:32
Contrary to the gospel that natural man has taught us, God is very good but his body must die first to enter eternal life. He loves all and will remove the dross and darkness (sin and law) from all people. The “testimony” is given at the proper time according to the Father’s sovereign will. 1 Tim 2:6 They will die in the outer man, but death must come first in God’s TRUE plan. We only live when we or the “I” of the false, outer man under law, dies.
“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit John 12:24
How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies 1 Cor 15:36
This is the MYSTERY of God my friends. He appears like DEATH to our outer man who is in darkness under law. He is perfect and pure and looks like death to us in the natural mind and body. However, hidden in death is true LIFE. 2 Cor 4:6. Ponder this powerful verse:
He made darkness His hiding place, His canopy around Him, Darkness of waters, thick clouds of the skies Psalm 18:11
We must start believing his Word instead of man’s natural mind who see’s the false reality of the “outer” which is only a shadow of the truth and not the true substance.
The real truth and REAL substance is hidden within us inside the darkness. God is SO good and he IS love. He loves all and he will save all, just each according to his perfect plan and time. If you fear him (as in you will be punished), then you have not yet been made perfect in love (death).
The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love 1 John 4:8
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. 1 John 4:18
Friends, our experience now in a natural body under law is not the TRUE reality or “substance”. The truth (who IS JESUS!) is yet to come but is now appearing inside us!
For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near Hebrews 10:1
Do you see the powerful truth here? We all live in and believe a false “reality” if we think God’s Word and the truth is based on the current, external world that the natural body reveals to us! It is not and nothing is as it appears. It (and we) will all die and this “death” will give birth to the new creation! If you fear God, you simply have more “dying” to do. “Death” is not popular among humans, but it is the way of God. I wrote more about God’s Holy fire here: What is God’s “fire”? Is it destructive? Or is it refining and cleansing us of impurities? – Kicked out of Church
This is God’s mystery. All things are under God’s law. Anything that is not God himself, must die as only HE can fulfill the perfect requirements of the law. However, when they die, they will be passed through the reconciling blood of Christ!
Thus, all people will die as only he can fulfill the law as perfect demands. But, as a result of this death, all will live in his son when he gives them the “testimony” of faith!
namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation 2 Cor 5:19
God has already reconciled the ENTIRE WORLD to himself and NO trespasses (sins) that the entire world commits will be counted against them. This has simply NOT YET BEEN made known to all people! This is what makes the following verse in the Bible one of the MOST POWERFUL IMHO.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive 1 Cor 15:22
Most don’t yet see that Jesus was and IS the last Adam. Please think about the incredible IMPACT and truth this means. He fully took on the FULL body of the first Adam and FULLY replaced him! “Adam’s” spiritually dead body became the body of Jesus as the “second man”. 1 Corinthians 15:47
So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit 1 Cor 15:45
Jesus has ADAM’S ENTIRE body as his very own!
So, part of the body of Christ is living (inner spirit man) and part of it is still dying (outer, natural man). However, his ENTIRE body will be made alive just as it all died in the first Adam. This is why Mark and Matthew tell us that his body is still on the cross. It is a spiritual cross, not a natural cross like we have been taught to believe by natural man.
But, there is an order to the dead part fully “dying” and becoming “alive” spiritually.
But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming 1 Cor 15:23
Please don’t rationalize this away in unbelief as natural man teaches you. You will MISS the power and GOODNESS and GLORY of our all-powerful FATHER. He LOVES all people and HE GIVES us the FAITH that saves us when he makes his son who IS THE TESTIMONY of life, appear WITHIN us. Thus, he made Christ the LORD of BOTH the saved “living” and the yet unsaved or “dead”. All people are HIS! He is LORD of all flesh!
For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living Romans 14:9
even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life John 17:2
Remember Revelation 20:15 where “everyone who’s name was not found in the lamb’s book of life was thrown into the lake of Fire”?
Well, please look at THE verse just before that one.
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire Rev 20:14
DEATH and HELL itself will be PURGED and FULLY REFINED! There will be NO MORE DEATH or sin at all! How could anyone die or be in pain after this? There is no more death anywhere. No more “hell”.
Ponder these most-beautiful Words of God that MUST come true.
“Therefore wait for Me,” declares the Lord,
“For the day when I rise up as a witness.
Indeed, My decision is to gather nations,
To assemble kingdoms,
To pour out on them My indignation,
All My burning anger;
For all the earth will be devoured
By the fire of My zeal.
9 “For then I will give to the peoples purified lips,
That all of them may call on the name of the Lord,
To serve Him shoulder to shoulder.
10 “From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia
My worshipers, My dispersed ones,
Will bring My offerings.
11 “In that day you will feel no shame
Because of all your deeds
By which you have rebelled against Me;
For then I will remove from your midst
Your proud, exulting ones,
And you will never again be haughty
On My holy mountain. Zephaniah 3:8-11
This, my dear friend is the TRUE gospel that will make you LEAP up and SCREAM for Joy when he shows it to you! It’s all GOD’S work from start to finish and he HAS done it and is making it appear even now from within us.
God bless and my the Lord give us eyes to see and ears to hear the love of the Father.